David Barmes was born in 1864 in Whitechapel, London. By 1881 he was a diamond polisher living in Nathans house at 38 Old Kent Road. In 1901 he was the manager of  a cigar shop, at the same address. By 1910 he with was still living over  the shop with Nathan but was now a tobacconist on own account. He was 48 when he married Ellen Taylor the daughter of Richard Taylor and Ellen Connell, on 9thSep 1912 in Registry Office, Southwark, London by now Nathan was dead and David was listed as a Master Tobacconist still at 38 Old Kent Road. He died on 5th May 1941 in Lambeth Surrey. His estate was probated on 19 Jun 1941 with effects worth £917 10s 3d.

Moses who was variously called Maurice and Charles was born in 1865 at 24 Shepherd St, Spitalfields. Maurice learnt his trade working at Nathans shop in the Old Kent Road as a cigar maker  until 1887 when he married Kate Abrahams the daughter of Mark Henry Abrahams and Esther Rogers, on 9th Nov  at the Borough New Synagogue, Southwark, London. They  moved into 73 Blackman Street, Borough, Southwark  and  he remained a Tobacconist.

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By 1891 he was a tobacconist in a shop in St Pancras but  lived at 268 Borough High St. By 1893 he lived and worked at  his tobacconist  shop  at 72 Caledonian Road Clerkenwell, London . However by  1901 he changed direction and was a fruiterer at  165 New Cross Road. He moved to 186 Lewisham Road, Catford  in 1907 Later in 1933 they moved to  5 Algiers Road, Lewisham,

He died on 07 Oct 1938 in St James Hospital ,  Balham, London His cause of death was Parkinsons disease

Louis Barmes was born on 14 May 1869 in 24, Shepherd St, Spitalfields, London as the eighth child of Nathan David Barmes and Sarah Boekman. In 1891 he was living at home and  unemployed

Philip Barmes was born in 1874 in Southwark the ninth child of Nathan David Barmes and Sarah Boekman. In 1881 he lived in the family home above the “shop” at 38 Old Kent Road where he worked. By 1901 he had become a traveller in cigars, but was still living with his parents and unmarried). In 1931 he was a cotton twine manufacturers agent at,  Westcliffe on Sea, Essex. He died in 1950 in Preston, Lancashire, England.

Femmetje Barmes was born on 03 Mar 1855 in Amsterdam as the first child of Nathan David Barmes and Sarah Boekman.

Caroline Barmes was born about 1857 in Spitalfields, London as the second child of Nathan David Barmes and Sarah Boekman.

Katherine Barmes was born in 1863 in Spitalfields, Whitechapel, London as the third child of Nathan David Barmes and Sarah Boekman. She did not marry and was registered blind.  She lived with her father and was a cigar maker. She was still there when David took over the business from his father. She died in  1940 in Horsham, Sussex, England.

Katherine Barmes was born in 1863 in Spitalfields, Whitechapel, London as the third child of Nathan David Barmes and Sarah Boekman. She did not marry and was registered blind.  She lived with her father and was a cigar maker. She was still there when David took over the business from his father. She died in  1940 in Horsham, Sussex, England.

Matilda Barmes was born in 1867 in Spitalfields, London and was the seventh child of Nathan and Sarah. In 1881 she was working in the family cigar making business When she was 24 she married Braham Arrobus, son of Samuel Arrobus and Sarah Hyman, on 22 Sep 1891 in London. She was by then a  Milliner . By 1911 she was widowed and lived at 12 Crampton Street, Southwark, London in 1911 and was a feather cleaner. She later married  Charles Mason